Setting up payroll

Posted on 24 February 2010 by Comments (6)

A couple of days ago @fastchicken told us on Twitter:

Mostly our "pain" is around payroll and paye - not done it before. going to see accountant next week

Paying yourself and other people involved in your business is a very important area to consider, so here's some more information about setting up a payroll, for UK-based businesses.

Do I need to set up a payroll at all?

If you're a sole trader, or partner in a partnership, and the business has no employed staff, this is one area you don't have to worry about. That's because you aren't an employee, legally you are the business. So breathe a sigh of relief and go and put the kettle on.

But, if your business does have employees, then read on...

I'm a director of a limited company, am I an employee?

Yes!

Remember, that when you're the director of a limited company, the company is a separate legal entity from you. That's different from sole traders and partners, who legally are the business.

So if you're a director, and you want the limited company to pay you a salary, the company is an employer, you are an employee!

OK, so how do I set up a payroll?

You need to tell the nice people at HM Revenue that you're going to be paying staff, and register your business as a new employer. See how to do that on their website.

How do I decide how much to pay each member of staff?

That's entirely up to you.

Bear in mind that you need to pay your team members at least the National Minimum Wage. This doesn't apply to directors who don't have contracts of employment with the company, so if that's you, you can pay yourself 1p a year if you really want to...

Your own salary 

When you choose how much to pay for your own salary, remember that many directors choose to pay themselves a salary of around about the personal allowance for the tax year, to avoid wasting the personal allowance and to keep entitlement to State Pension, and make up the rest of their income in dividends, as this can help save tax.

Talk to your accountant if you like the sound of that.

How often to pay staff; paying them and HM Revenue 

You also need to decide whether to pay your staff weekly, fortnightly, 4-weekly or monthly, and on which date you'll pay them. Make sure this isn't going to upset your cashflow applecart. It might be easier to budget for smaller weekly payments than for larger monthly ones.

If there's any PAYE or National Insurance due, you must pay that to HM Revenue on time, too. Here's when your PAYE and National Insurance is due. You can pay this monthly, or if your PAYE and National Insurance bill is small enough, you might be able to pay quarterly.

What about annual tasks?

The tax year runs from 6th April to 5th April of the following year. So at the moment, we're in tax year 2009/10, which started on 6th April 2009 and will finish on 5th April 2010.

By 19th May following the end of the tax year, so that's 19th May 2010 for 2009/10, you'll also need to have filed your year-end form P35, which tells HM Revenue exactly how much PAYE and National Insurance you should have paid during the year, and how much you did pay. That's so they can come after you if you haven't paid enough :-)

You'll also need to give your staff a form P60 each, showing their earnings and tax paid for the year, and file forms P14 with HM Revenue.

If you use a payroll service such as MyPAYE or HM Revenue's own CD-ROM to run your payroll, this can help you with your annual tasks.

Or, you can simply take your year-end figures from FreeAgent and file them online through HM Revenue's website.

Do I have to file payroll year-end forms online?

Almost inevitably yes. There are some people who don't, though - here are the exceptions.

Payroll is a big area and one that's crucial to your business, because if you don't pay your employees, they very soon won't be your employees. So make sure you get it right. 

If you're in any doubt at all, talk to your accountant, or go along to one of HM Revenue's employer workshops.

Over to you...

Andy Stewaret, Wed February 24, 2010
An admirably clear explanation. Thank you!
James Oke, Tue April 13, 2010
I have just read your very good piece online. I have to read it again and again before I can take it all in. I am a retired teacher. I started teaching late . To supplement my pension, I have to work. To get work, I have to be prepared to work a long way from home at different schools and (irregular) private tuition, so I set up a limited company partly because the agency will not find work for me unless I am a limited company and I can also claim transport expenses. The best I can get in any one month is about £3000 gross not including holidays. If I do not go work I do not get paid. As well as transport, I have other expenses such as preparing work at home and using my printer etc. Is it worth getting an accountant for £300
Roman Gaufman, Fri January 21, 2011
Great article, might be helpful to add that a P11D (for salary £8500 or more) or P9D (for salary under £8500) form must be completed also.

And that P60 is also known as P14 Part 3 or the third part of a triplicate form of the details of the employees' taxable income and deductions.
emily, Mon January 24, 2011
Thanks Roman, that's very helpful!

James: As you're working through a limited company I would recommend getting an accountant, as there are potential tax pitfalls here - and apologies for the (very) slow reply.

Kind regards,

Emily
Stephen, Mon May 16, 2011
Hi Emily,

In this article, you say: "Or, you can simply take your year-end figures from FreeAgent and file them online through HM Revenue's website."

Can you tell me where about in FreeAgent I can find the figures needed to complete the P14 and P35?

As you say "simply," I assume there's a screen that I'm missing which breaks down the figures I need to manually type into the form.

Thanks,

Stephen
emily, Mon May 16, 2011
Hello Stephen,

You can find the P14 figures (total pay and tax for each member of staff) on their page under My Money > Payroll.

The other P14 figures (NIC) are a bit more difficult and you'd probably need to use the NI tables to help you work these out.

The P35 figures (total tax paid) would be under Taxes > PAYE and NI.

Make sure you look at the right tax years in both My Money > Payroll and Taxes > PAYE and NI.

I hope that helps but if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,

Emily
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